Clark Bartram on Sustainable Health through Mindset, Meals, Movement, Community & Supplementation

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Katie: Whats up, and welcome to the “Wellness Mama” podcast. I’m Katie from wellnessmama.com and wellnesse.com, that’s Wellness with an E on the tip. And I’m right here immediately with an individual often called “America’s Most Trusted Health Skilled.” Clark Bartram has been serving to many ladies turn out to be bodily, emotionally, and spiritually match for actually many years. And he has impressed thousands and thousands of individuals world wide. He’s an elite grasp coach, and he’s labored with individuals one-on-one by way of TV exhibits, by way of his packages. And he was honored by the Nationwide Health Corridor of Fame in 2018 for his work with the Jail Fellowship with Operation Beginning Line, with the Particular Olympics, and lots of different organizations.

 

And despite the fact that he’s a health skilled, we discuss loads of different issues on this very wide-ranging dialog. We speak most about mindset, which he and I agree is crucial issue for well being. We additionally cowl issues just like the minimal efficient dose for health. What he really tracks and what he doesn’t, and it’d shock you. His easy instruments for realizing how a lot and what to eat. However then we actually go deep on issues like why fats diets don’t work and learn how to make sustainable shifts, and his 5 way of life ideas for well being so as: mindset, meals, motion, neighborhood, and supplementation. We go loads of totally different instructions from there, however very wide-ranging and enjoyable dialog I believe you’ll get pleasure from as a lot as I did. So let’s be a part of Clark. Clark, welcome to the podcast.

 

Clark: I’m excited to be right here. Thanks very a lot for having me, Katie.

 

Katie: Nicely, I’m excited to speak health with you. I do know that’s your most important world. However I’ve a observe in my present notes that you’ve got a present for doing soccer trick photographs, and I’ve to listen to just a little bit extra about that.

 

Clark: Oh, okay, so somebody’s been doing a little analysis on me. Yeah, you understand, I don’t even prefer to name them trick photographs as a result of it takes loads of talent to do what I do. And it was from a good friend of mine by the title of Large Unhealthy Brad Johnson, he was a Tremendous Bowl-winning quarterback. And he and I had been simply difficult one another in the future to go off and do a few of the stuff. And it simply caught on.

 

So now I’m hooked on going out to the soccer discipline, taking a soccer, and pondering up some loopy concept, and making an attempt to finish it. And, you understand, in all honesty, generally it takes me three days to do a few of these photographs. So it’s loads of enjoyable. It’s a good way for me to meditate, too.

 

Katie: That’s actually cool. I believe you’re my first visitor who has been in a position to try this. So new expertise, that’s cool. And I do know that your most important world is health and that you simply’ve been in that world for a really very long time. I’d love to listen to just a bit background for anybody who’s not conversant in you of how you bought into that world and sort of what’s your home within the health world.

 

Clark: So it began for me, I imagine, once I was within the Marine Corps. I used to…at lunchtime, when most guys would fall asleep, I might go off and do pull-ups and push-ups. And in the future, my commanding officer noticed me doing that and he mentioned, “Hey, Bartram, we want you to assist these two guys get in form. And for those who don’t, you understand, they’re gonna get kicked out. So I’m relying on you to assist them.” He simply form of dumped these guys on me.

 

And I actually didn’t know what I used to be doing on the time different than simply exercising. You recognize, I had no plan, I used to be simply on the market as a result of I loved the bodily a part of being a Marine. And lo and behold, they acquired in form. And my commanding officer got here to me and mentioned, “Hey, nice job, thanks very a lot.” And that was the tip of it.

 

However once I acquired out, I wanted to get a job. And there was a gymnasium, an area gymnasium, again then it was known as Household Health Middle, now it’s 24 Hour Health. However I went in and utilized for a job, acquired a job as a coach, form of labored my method by way of the business, administration, owned a gymnasium for some time. After which, you understand, it simply form of grew from there and right here I’m immediately. That was 1984 once I began within the gymnasium enterprise.

 

Katie: Nicely, I really feel like particularly proper now that is possibly a fall down level for lots of people. And health, there’s a lot data and misinformation on the market and a lot conflicting data on the market, I really feel like it may be laborious to chop by way of a few of that noise generally. And it will probably appear overwhelming for somebody who possibly didn’t form of all the time exist in that world to get began. So I’d love to begin broad and discuss a few of the largest elements in your thoughts relating to health and fats loss and sustaining that over the long run.

 

Clark: Yeah. So I wanna enchantment to your listener and simply attain out and let you know, look, don’t overcomplicate this, and don’t evaluate your self to anyone apart from how you are feeling your greatest. Not even your 23-year-old model of your self as a result of the fact is none of us shall be our 23-year-old self. We simply want to essentially be glad with who we’re immediately. However the issue comes, Katie, such as you mentioned, with all of this data that’s on the web, all people desires to place themselves because the professional.

 

I don’t even prefer to name myself an professional. I’m an fanatic. I’m somebody who loves connecting with individuals and somebody who actually loves seeing the potential in individuals come out after they thought it was too late, they had been too outdated, they had been too chubby, they didn’t have the genetics, or no matter lie we inform ourselves. I really like seeing individuals rise from the ashes just like the Phoenix and actually turn out to be one thing.

 

So the very first thing I might suggest, apart from loving your self immediately, is don’t go researching all the newest best fads as a result of they’re all late and nice fads. There’s reality to loads of what you’re being taught, however there’s loads of advertising and marketing wrapped round what you’re being taught. And it comes right down to one thing so fundamental, energy in versus energy out, that’s the backside line. Don’t get caught up in keto, and in Fritos, and no matter. Simply just be sure you’re transferring extra immediately than you probably did yesterday and also you’re being aware about what it’s that you simply’re placing in your physique.

 

And I do know individuals are saying, “Clark, if it was that simple, I wouldn’t be within the place I’m in immediately.” Nicely, it’s that simple. And also you don’t should be within the place you’re in immediately for those who’re simply very conscious of it. So I begin by writing issues down. Write down every thing you eat immediately and don’t make it an ideal day, make it an actual day. So now you might have a sensible understanding of what it’s that you simply’re doing, after which that’s the place we begin.

 

Katie: Yeah, so many instructions we will go from there. However I really like that time you introduced up about not being an professional, simply being an fanatic. And I believe…what I’ve mentioned earlier than is the one professional about your well being is you. And I inform individuals on a regular basis, you’re your personal main well being care supplier, you can’t outsource that. You’ll be able to completely work with companions that will help you and that’s…I completely suggest that. However on the finish of the day, you’re the solely one who has a vested curiosity, and also you’re additionally the one one who can change it.

 

So be taught from individuals. I’m an enormous believer, there’s one thing we will be taught from each single particular person, expertise, and for those who can keep that curiosity, however on the finish of the day, that’s on you. I additionally love that you simply introduced up genetics as a result of I believe lots of people use this as a scapegoat and say, like, “Oh, effectively, I simply don’t have good genetics, and so I’m by no means gonna be this match. Or I might by no means do this as a result of I don’t have good genetics.” And I’ve challenged myself on that recently and proved my very own self improper. However I might love your tackle the genetics and the way a lot genetics come into play for well being.

 

Clark: Nicely, it’s actually fascinating as a result of I’ve a good friend, for instance, and he has 4 children. And two of them, we might classify in our tradition, and I’m not saying that is simply the way in which we classify individuals, as chubby. Two are heavier, and two are very skinny. So I take a look at these children, all from the identical gene pool, who two are just like the dad and two are just like the mother because it pertains to aesthetics and physique construction.

 

So I sit there and I scratch my head and I’m like, “Why is that this? How does this occur that individuals come from the identical gene pool, however have a unique predisposition to stroll round at a sure weight, or a sure potential because it pertains to how they might look?” So I don’t even have the reply to that query. However the reply to me shouldn’t be specializing in that, not worrying about what my sister appears to be like like, or what the genetics are, because it pertains to how I really feel about myself. As a result of each single certainly one of us is a singular particular person, and each single certainly one of us has worth that we deliver to this world.

 

And we frequently overlook that worth as a result of we’re so centered on the aesthetic half, the surface half, we’re involved with being heavier than we wish to be or no matter. Now, I’m saying, you understand, undoubtedly concentrate on that if it’s one thing that bothers you, however I wouldn’t get too caught up within the genetics half as a result of there’s nothing that you are able to do about it, you might have your dad and mom, that’s the method that it’s. Nothing goes to alter, besides the way in which that you simply body it in your day-to-day method to the way you’re going to reside your life.

 

However sadly, Katie, lots of people will throw within the towel and say, “That is simply the way in which I’m, and that’s all there’s to it, so I’m simply gonna reside my life.” However we might be more healthy. And it doesn’t all the time must manifest in a physique that will recommend we’re wholesome. You recognize what I’m saying? Like our western tradition has pinpointed those that look a sure method because the measure of well being when that’s not essentially a real assertion.

 

I’ve acquired an excellent story a couple of girl and it’s price sharing right here. I had a TV present known as “American Well being and Health.” And on that TV present, I had six fashions that labored with me on the present. Now, these women had been what we might confer with in our tradition as good, proper? They’d the physique, they’d the hair, they’d the appears to be like, they’d all of that, however their perspective wasn’t matching what they seemed like.

 

I am going into the wardrobe division and on the right-hand aspect of the trailer are these six ladies making an attempt on wardrobe for the subsequent section that we’re gonna do. After which down on the left-hand aspect was our wardrobe marketing consultant. She stood about 4 toes 11 inches tall, she was in all probability 200 kilos. She was as huge as she was tall, you understand, she was a heavier lady, fully the alternative of the women on this finish.

 

So I stroll in, and I’m listening to the dialog of those good ladies, “Oh, this makes my butt look fats, oh, my gosh,” simply complaining. And I used to be like, “Ooh, ooh.” So I smelled meals on the opposite finish. So I am going right down to the opposite finish, her title was Sally, and he or she was cooking meals. And I’m main to a degree right here and I need everybody to listen to this and put this in your coronary heart once I say it.

 

She’s cooking the meals. And I’m not a tall man, proper, I’m 5’8, however I’m wanting down at her, and he or she’s simply this little girl. And he or she’s cooking this meals. It was rooster and crimson peppers and inexperienced peppers and yellow. It was an exquisite lunch. And I mentioned, “Wow, that appears nice.” And he or she checked out me…and there’s a scripture within the Bible, it says, “The eyes are the window to the soul.” She seemed straight into my eyes, into my soul, she mentioned, “Clark, that is the physique that God gave me and I’m gonna reside in it wholesome.” I used to be like, “Sure, that’s the very best assertion I’ve ever heard from a human in my life.”

 

Now, we’ve these those that the world would take a look at as like, “Oh, my gosh, I want I seem like her.” And this girl who had the perspective of, “That is who I’m. I’ve accepted who I’m. I really like who I’m. However I’m gonna deal with who I’m wholesome no matter what anybody else may take into consideration how I look.”

 

Katie: I really like that. I believe you’re proper. A lot of it goes again to mindset. And I’ve a 13-year-old daughter who…all my children have ended up in several athletic pursuits simply because they like it, and to them, it’s play. However I really like watching her journey and the way totally different it’s from me as a 13-year-old, taking a look at my physique at that time in my life very like these fashions and discovering all of the issues improper with it and being so self-critical as a result of the world was telling me to look a sure method. And I used to be solely evaluating myself to that.

 

After which I see my daughter, who’s her physique for her is a efficiency device, and to her, it’s about, “What can my physique do? And that is such a cool machine that I can get to do all these cool issues.” And he or she’s not in that mindset of being self-critical as a result of her physique to her is that this wonderful solution to specific all these athletic endeavors and to have enjoyable, and it’s about how she feels in her physique. And I believe that mindset shift is such an essential key that always will get neglected, to your level.

 

And I believe I observed that in my very own life with my very own well being transitions of once I was internally asking myself the questions like, “Oh, effectively, why can’t I reduce weight? Why is it so laborious to work out?” My unconscious was answering these questions as a result of that’s what I used to be asking. And it was like, “Oh, as a result of you might have thyroid illness. Oh, since you had six children.” And once I modified my language, and the way I associated to myself to, “Why is that this a lot enjoyable? And the way can I get so robust? And all these items,” my unconscious began engaged on these questions.

 

And I believe turning into conscious of that may be such a profound shift as a result of it’s simpler and extra enjoyable to work out and to get stronger in a physique that you simply respect and love than a physique that you’re crucial towards. And your physique responds a lot in another way. I additionally love that you simply introduced up the energy in, energy out as a result of I really feel like this can be a controversial level at occasions. And we actually have the Keto world and loads of different individuals making all these claims that will be considerably opposite to that. I’m curious, do you take a look at macros in any respect?

 

As an illustration, one pattern I’ve observed is loads of ladies really appear to be under-eating and over depriving and never really getting sufficient fundamental vitamins. Much more so possibly they’re overeating and getting too many energy, after which they’re entering into form of like metabolic points from, true, like precise under-eating. However do you take a look at macros in any respect? Is there another granularity there, or do you simply take a look at energy?

 

Clark: I don’t even take a look at energy or macros personally, what I do is I’m very instinctive. And I used to be having this dialog yesterday with a coach on the gymnasium. He mentioned, “You recognize, you’ve acquired so a few years of doing this, you actually know your physique. I watch your exercises, I don’t see you following any set patterns or routines.” And I believe these patterns and routines can generally be the issue that we find yourself operating into. So for those who don’t rely your macros that day, for those who don’t rely your energy, for those who don’t weigh your meals, then you definately’re like, “Oh, I can’t do that,” so that you throw within the towel. And that’s not the way in which to do it.

 

You recognize…such as you mentioned earlier, Katie, we all know higher than anybody what is critical. And we, on some degree, even when we don’t have any training in diet or health or any of that, innately, we all know after we’re doing one thing improper to our physique as a result of our physique is gonna reply to us in a method that’s going to inform us, “Look, ooh, that wasn’t good to eat a complete bag of chips or have all of that sugar,” or a few of these issues that we all know are empty energy and issues that aren’t going to learn us in the long term.

 

So I don’t suggest that individuals rely energy or do any of that type of factor. You recognize, an excellent measuring device is that this image on my hand right here is the measuring device, and I’m positive you’ve seen this earlier than. The palm of your hand could be the quantity of protein, that’s one macro, proper? So the palm of your hand, the thickness, that’d be rooster, fish, steak, turkey, something that’s protein. A clenched fist could be the scale of your carbohydrates, potato, rice, and all of that type of factor. After which tip of your thumb could be the quantity of fats you’d eat, butter, mayonnaise, that type of factor.

 

So, all of our fingers are gonna be totally different sizes, and that will decide the correct quantity of meals for the person. So we will now take a look at it on the plate. So if we go to a restaurant and the plate is that this large, and we put our hand up and the protein is that large, we might get three meals from that. So then just a little little bit of self-discipline does should be exercised at that time as a result of for those who can eat all of that, otherwise you’ve been taught, proper. There’s a brand new app that teaches us the psychology behind why we eat and offers it names.

 

So if we’re a guilt eater as a result of some child is ravenous in Africa, and we have to clear our plate, we have to reconcile that, and that goes again to the mindset half, and perceive that that’s not the right solution to go. After we had been being raised, our dad and mom did the improper factor for us in that regard. And I really like…I wanna return to what you mentioned about your daughter as regards to all people.

 

All people’s physique is a efficiency device. All of us carry out in a sure method. Each particular person on this planet is an athlete, you’re an athlete, whether or not you kick a soccer factor or no matter you do. For those who’re vacuuming the ground holding a child on the similar time, that’s athletic. That isn’t a simple factor to do. However you’ve turn out to be so accustomed to doing that as a result of that’s your day-to-day life. You’re taking that as a right and you’d by no means settle for me saying, you’re an athlete, you do very athletic stuff. You raise a field and also you’re on one leg and also you’re pushing it up. These are athletic issues.

 

So your physique is a efficiency device, and it’s worthwhile to deal with it as such. You’re performing one thing each single day. We simply give these athletes who receives a commission thousands and thousands of {dollars} to throw balls across the title, when each certainly one of us is that particular person.

 

Katie: I really like that you simply introduced that up. I do know, like, it took me a very long time to truly be snug with utilizing that time period for myself, despite the fact that now I’m doing fairly a little bit of issues that will be historically thought-about athletic. However I used to assume like, “Oh, I’m not an athlete, I can’t do this.” And that was a mindset shift I needed to face.

 

And likewise, to your level, I believe you’re proper, like, after we get these restrictive diets which can be keto, or like no fats, or no matter it could be, like, to me, that’s not the optimum long-term model of well being. My objective is to be metabolically versatile to have my physique have the ability to adapt to no matter I throw at it, to have the ability to do any exercise I wanna do. And sometimes, to eat the meals I wanna eat and never freak out about it.

 

To me, it’s not the image of well being if, “Oh, I might be completely wholesome on this very slim vary so long as I’m consuming completely no carbs, and I’m taking all these loopy dietary supplements.” That’s not metabolic flexibility, that’s actually tightly managed regiment, and the physique is so adaptable.

 

I do know there’s additionally loads of debate relating to health and well being, how a lot of that’s diet-based, and the way a lot of that’s understanding within the health aspect? And I’ve heard it mentioned, you understand, abs are made within the kitchen. I don’t know if that’s true. I’d love to listen to your tackle that. However how a lot of it goes again to what we eat versus how a lot understanding we’re doing?

 

Clark: Nicely, let me first begin together with your assertion concerning the sustainability half. You didn’t say that, however that’s what got here to my thoughts. Any of those diets, any of those packages, something that we discover is the most recent best, it’s essential to ask your self, “Is that this sustainable? Can I reside this manner?” As a result of it doesn’t matter for those who kill your self for six weeks, and also you restrict the quantity of carbohydrates you’re taking in or no matter self-discipline you might have added to your life.

 

If it’s not sustainable, it’s actually for my part, not price doing as a result of we’ve heard so many individuals gaining the load again after they misplaced it with these actually hardcore diets. So with respect to abs are made within the kitchen, I can’t disagree with that. However there’s a press release that they are saying you possibly can’t outwork a foul weight loss program. Positive you possibly can. However who desires to? Who desires to work that tough? I actually don’t.

 

So we actually want to take a look at it in a method that’s sensible, and sustainable. So what I train the those that I work with are 5 way of life ideas. And I don’t assume that diet is the only most essential issue. You could have already touched on this, I’ve touched on this.

 

However the 5 way of life ideas that I train are on this particular order, mindset, meals, motion, neighborhood, and supplementation, in that order. You can not put meals in entrance of mindset as a result of, in case your thoughts shouldn’t be set, for those who’re not ready, for those who’re not able to go, “Okay, this man mentioned, it’s energy in versus energy out, I gotta do that.” So that you’re setting your thoughts so as to do the self-discipline that it requires to enter the kitchen and eat the precise meals and denying your self a few of these pleasures that we’ve in our life.

 

After which motion being the third one. So if we’ve the meals and the motion collectively, a great way to get right into a calorie deficit is that this. If it’s worthwhile to get 500 energy out of your weight loss program, don’t take all of it out of your meals, take 250 out of your meals and add 250 in train or motion. Now we’ve acquired a 500 complete, it is smart, proper? So we’re eliminating 250. Now, for those who’ve written down what you’re consuming, you understand the place you may get 250 energy out.

 

You look and also you’re like, “Yeah, okay, I ate a bag of chips whereas I used to be watching TV, all I gotta do is eliminate that or minimize that in half even.” So now you’re reducing the caloric consumption. What can I do to extend? I might go 5 extra minutes on the treadmill, or I might take a stroll, or I might do leaping jacks.

 

I’ve a program known as 3 Strikes, 3 Minutes that’s blowing up on TikTok. Persons are amazed that in three minutes, you possibly can change the way in which you exist on this planet, three minutes a day. There’s 168 hours in per week, there’s 1440 minutes in a day. I’m telling you, in three minutes a day, you possibly can change the way in which you exist on this planet. I don’t care what anybody says. And folks argue with me on TikTok all day lengthy. They’re too sensible for themselves. They assume they’ve outsmarted the human physique, and that tells me how silly they’re.

 

Katie: I respect a lot the order you might have on these. I believe 100% in alignment that mindset is the important thing. And I’ve realized, like, you possibly can’t punish your self into well being for those who’re coming from that mindset. Your hormones will ultimately win over these extremely restrictive fats diets as a result of, for those who over prohibit for too lengthy, your hormones are stronger than your willpower, and for those who’re not really nourishing your physique with entire meals from a spot of affection, you finally will hit that wall.

 

And to your level, you possibly can’t…I assume you’re proper, you would outwork a foul weight loss program. We’ve seen the movies of Michael Phelps when he was within the peak of his coaching, consuming 12,000 energy a day of pizza and ice cream. None of us wanna go swim for eight hours a day in chilly water to try this. And in order that brings me to the purpose of what’s possibly a few of the minimal efficient doses? Particularly lots of people listening are busy mothers, and I believe that’s one impediment, a minimum of excuse individuals give is, “I don’t have time to work out.” So what are a few of these…I imply, three minutes is nice. However what are a few of these minimal efficient doses of ways in which we will incorporate that motion piece?

 

Clark: Nicely, if we’re intentional about our motion…so this can be a lot of what I’ll…the phrases that I’ll use once I’m doing my TikTok movies and displaying some staple items. For instance, I’m sitting right here, and we all the time rise up with out even excited about it as a result of our unconscious handles that a part of us. But when we go from the unconscious to the aware, and understand, “I’m standing up, I’m utilizing muscle groups in my legs, I’m utilizing muscle groups in my core, I’m utilizing steadiness to do that.”

 

So if I let you know, sit down and rise up 10 occasions with intention, understanding, “My legs are working proper now, I’m squeezing my glutes, I’m sitting again down, my eyes are straight into the horizon, I’m balancing,” now, that motion that we do each single day for our complete life, by no means excited about it as a result of the unconscious is doing it, we make it aware, now it turns into train. So that you’re not doing something totally different however altering the way in which you’re excited about what you’re already doing.

 

It’s like respiration, Katie, it’s the identical factor. We by no means consciously breathe as a result of our unconscious handles it from the time we’re…the very first thing we do after we’re born, and the very last thing we do earlier than we depart this Earth is, take a breath. And every single day in between, we by no means want to consider it. However after we give it some thought, then it turns into one thing that may change our state. Throwing again to Tony Robbins, immediately, by… (breathe)

 

I promise, if everybody proper now sits there and takes three deep breaths consciously and thinks about it, you’ll change the way in which you are feeling immediately. And this isn’t me arising with this, that is truth, that is actual, that is trustworthy, and that is easy.

 

Katie: Yeah, and it’s such an excellent metric. And to your level, like, respiration is the factor all of us do all day lengthy, you possibly can go a really quick time with out respiration earlier than you die. In order that’s an essential issue we frequently ignore, however within the form of the triage concept, for those who enhance your respiration, that’s one thing you’re doing on a regular basis, that’s your oxygen, that’s every thing associated to your physique.

 

After which I might say, like, additionally you possibly can go a shorter time with out water than with out meals. So hydration is a vital key that always doesn’t get talked about sufficient. We sleep for a 3rd of our lives. Sleep is a vital factor that we frequently ignore, and we wanna hyper-focus on meals or like fashionable dietary supplements when there’s all these different levers which can be enormous so far as making precise lasting, to your level, sustainable modifications.

 

I believe one other factor that always will get talked about within the health neighborhood is the variations between women and men. And I see loads of ladies who’re afraid to work out an excessive amount of, or raise heavy, or do sure issues as a result of they’re afraid they’re gonna get cumbersome. So I might love so that you can converse to the variations between women and men. And possibly a few of the particular actions that ladies can incorporate that aren’t gonna ship them into, and I do know this can be a fallacy, however bodybuilder territory.

 

Clark: Nicely, you understand it’s a fallacy, however the majority of individuals don’t understand it’s a fallacy as a result of, if it was simple to get, you understand, jacked as we name it on this business, all people could be doing it with respect to all the individuals who go to the gymnasium as a result of that’s the tip objective.

 

However the actuality, the distinction between women and men is males have 12 to fifteen occasions the quantity of testosterone flowing by way of their physique while you had talked about hormones. You recognize, we’ve 12 to fifteen occasions extra testosterone flowing by way of our physique than ladies do on a median. So, that in and of itself, it lends itself to males being extra muscular than ladies being muscular.

 

However ladies want that testosterone no in another way than males want the estrogen. And that’s one other factor that, you understand, loads of guys will assume, “Nicely, I don’t want any estrogen.” Sure, you do. You simply want the precise steadiness and the precise proportion. And that’s what occurs as we age is oftentimes, not particularly because of the ageing course of, however attributable to all kinds of things like stress being the principle one, these hormones get out of steadiness, after which we get into bother.

 

After which, to your level a minute in the past, we leap from one excessive to a different, overlooking all the small steps that we might do in between to treatment and repair that scenario alongside the way in which. So a person, for instance, if he has low testosterone, he instantly desires to run to the clinic, get a shot, however he overlooks mindset, meals, motion, neighborhood, and supplementation. Your human physique can change your hormonal, not blueprint, however actuality in the intervening time by altering these 5 ideas and bettering on them.

 

So, ladies want resistance coaching as a lot as males want resistance coaching. And I might say, even to a level, just a little bit extra due to bone mass density points which can be extra prevalent to ladies than they’re to males, particularly within the ageing course of. And the one solution to deal with that’s by way of resistance coaching.

 

Now, that is one thing else I train on TikTok as a result of we relate resistance coaching to large weights. Something that’s heavier than air, look, my cellphone proper right here, that is resistance. If I curl it, I’m now weightlifting, I’m bodybuilding, I’m performance-enhancing as a result of I’m lifting one thing that’s heavier than air. It may very well be a child, it may very well be a pet, it may very well be a weight, it may very well be a band, it may very well be something. I raise books in right here.

 

Matter of truth, somebody commented on my TikTok submit the opposite day. I grabbed this candle proper right here out of my workplace, and I did tricep kickbacks like this. And the woman mentioned, “Oh, my God, I did that candle factor, and again of my arms harm.” I’m like, “Sure, let’s go.” You recognize, and this can be a pretty smelling candle, it’s not intimidating, proper? Yeah, and I burn candles, I’m a person, let’s go.

 

Katie: Nicely, I’m glad you introduced up the health altering as we age, too, as a result of that’s one other excuse that I usually hear from individuals, or that, like, it modifications after motherhood and ladies really feel like they’ll’t do the issues that they used to do earlier than. And definitely, I do know hormones do change as we age.

 

However to your level, I really feel like issues like resistance coaching get extra essential as we age, not much less essential. And people are sometimes those individuals cease doing. So what are some issues to pay attention to, possibly within the totally different many years of life, for sustaining health and ensuring we’re hitting these longevity elements relating to health?

 

Clark: Nicely, individuals all the time ask me, “Clark, what’s the important thing to staying younger? You appear so younger, you appear so very important and full life and all of that.” It’s utilizing your physique to the extent to which it’s succesful, proper? So that you won’t be as succesful as you had been at 23. No one is. Tom Brady simply retired, he isn’t a man who might play at a excessive degree until he was 50-years-old. He might have nonetheless saved doing it.

 

However what I’m saying is, all of us have that very same capability to carry out at a degree that different individuals would take a look at us and go, “Aren’t you 58? Do you have to actually be on the market doing what you’re doing?” Completely, I must be out right here doing what I’m doing as a result of I nonetheless have a physique that’s succesful, offered I’m working inside my skills, not dwelling in my 18-year-old physique that, you understand, performed rugby as a Marine touring all around the world. I can’t do this anymore at that degree.

 

However that doesn’t imply that I can’t do issues that assist keep a youthful existence. And sitting on the sofa in comparison with being out and being energetic, whether or not it’s strolling or kicking a soccer and enjoying, or dancing, or leaping rope, the 2 variations are excessive.

 

And once more, our tradition, we reside in these two extremes. Like, “I’m simply gonna lay on the sofa and watch TV,” you understand what I imply? No, man, there’s motion you may make in a route to begin bettering. And right here’s what I’ll say, the second…individuals all the time ask me, “How shortly can I get outcomes?” And I say, “Immediately, immediately.” The minute you rise up and sit down consciously and give it some thought, the second you breathe consciously and give it some thought, every thing begins to alter immediately.

 

The issue is we search for it within the mirror, we look forward to it in our abs, we wanna see it like now. That’s not the way in which to measure it as a result of it’s like meals. Meals is essentially the most highly effective drug on planet Earth. Individuals don’t understand this. “Clark, meals shouldn’t be a drug.” Oh, sure, it’s. Sure, it’s. It causes a chemical and hormonal response in your physique.

 

What do medication do? They trigger a chemical and hormonal response in your physique. So meals is the factor that you simply do most persistently, so it’s worthwhile to take a look at it in such a method like, “What is that this going to trigger in my physique the minute I eat it immediately?” You bought me fired up now.

 

Katie: I prefer it. I’ve talked about that relating to meals high quality as effectively is like we frequently low cost meals high quality and we’ll eat actually crappy meals, however then we’ll take one capsule of acetaminophen and anticipate it to resolve all of our ache signs. And we don’t acknowledge the identical quantity of like chemical compounds added to meals might even have. And to not get orthorexic or should be excessive, however listening to meals high quality issues.

 

Such as you mentioned, meals is chemistry, our our bodies are chemistry labs. And we’ve loads of levers we will pull there that make an enormous distinction and that we do see an impression in our vitality ranges in our sleep after we begin making these modifications.

 

Additionally, to circle again to what you mentioned, I can attest now firsthand that you don’t as a girl particularly by chance get cumbersome by lifting heavyweights. Actually, it tends to go the opposite method. Like, the heavier I raise, I’m tending to get smaller. Such as you don’t do one exercise and get up the subsequent day with enormous arms, that doesn’t occur, particularly for girls.

 

And I additionally assume to your level, make it enjoyable, do the little issues. My children are my best instructor on this, in that they work out all day lengthy, they usually don’t know they’re exercising. They’re climbing bushes, they’re doing cartwheels, they’re simply transferring round doing child actions, they’d by no means name that train, is tremendous enjoyable to them. And we might be taught a lot from that.

 

One factor I’ve discovered in my life is we expect we form our surroundings. And that’s true to a point. However our surroundings additionally very a lot shapes our physique. And so something I can put in a method in our home that encourages us to maneuver or to have higher posture, or no matter it’s, that helps the surroundings form us in a optimistic method.

 

So we’ve a climbing dangle board in our kitchen, in order the children stroll by way of the archway, they’ll simply dangle for a short time. Or we’ve a gymnastics observe down our hallway. So we don’t stroll down the hallway, we cartwheel or leap or roll. Nevertheless it’s getting these actions in and it’s simply enjoyable, it doesn’t really feel like train in any respect. We even for some time had a rebounder as a substitute of a espresso desk in our front room, so if children are watching TV, they’re bouncing the entire time. I really feel like little modifications like that make it enjoyable.

 

And children are so nice at that innately. And adults, we generally lose it and we time period it understanding after which we resist it, and it’s this entire factor. And I believe that additionally circles again to the mindset piece. I really like that that’s crucial one for you. I might love to listen to any ideas you might have for facilitating these mindset shifts. I’ve seen firsthand, for those who get that piece discovered, all the opposite ones get a lot simpler. However that may be the powerful one for those who’re caught in possibly a unfavorable cycle together with your mindset.

 

Clark: So that you mentioned the right phrase, caught in a unfavorable cycle together with your mindset, most of us are. And it’s as a result of we’ve conditioned responses to every thing. Now we have conditioned ways in which we function our life. Probably the most conditioned method for most individuals is after we get up within the morning, what we do. And, you understand, we hear about morning routines, it appears overemphasized today, however it’s overemphasized as a result of it’s in all probability crucial half.

 

The way you bookend your day, for my part, not simply within the morning, however within the night as effectively, is vitally essential to how we reside in between these two moments. It’s no totally different than the respiration piece, proper? We take a breath, and growth, after which all of that in-between. So most individuals within the morning, sadly, get up and they’re conditioned to activate the TV and the information pops on. And within the background, even when they’re not sitting there and paying consideration, they’re getting fed all of this unfavorable stuff. Then they go proper to their handheld gadget they usually begin taking a look at textual content messages and messages and unfavorable issues. As a result of, let’s all face it, nearly all of what we’re consuming on a day-to-day foundation, if we’re not aware about it is going to be unfavorable. I don’t know why. It’s simply the world that we reside in.

 

After which from there, we get caught up in one thing else, possibly we learn the newspaper. So what I’m saying is, don’t do this. Don’t activate the TV. For those who do, placed on a YouTube video that’s 10-minute mindset shift within the morning. Like I take heed to these on a regular basis, there’s a lot nice content material. There are creators that minimize collectively these lovely, simply melodies of various individuals talking, that simply fill you up, man.

 

I’m right here to say that it takes much less of that than it does of the unfavorable stuff to get you transferring in a greater route. Like I solely want this a lot positivity. I want one particular person to return and pat me on the again after which edify me and construct me up. I’m like, “Let’s go.” So, the reward for doing that shall be evident in your life loads prior to the draining that’s simply consistently occurring. That’s how superior you’re as a human.

 

So then, you understand, you undergo your day and attempt to take heed to your feelings. Like I all the time inform individuals, be on the balcony. And also you’re sitting there and also you’re observing your self. You’re not in your feelings, you’re observing the way you react and reply and do your life.

 

After which while you go to mattress at evening, I’ve one thing so easy and so foolish. I’ve acquired a pillowcase that’s acquired all kinds of optimistic phrases on it. And I’ll take a look at that pillowcase at evening, and I’ll learn it, magnificence, concord, light-hearted, carefree, love, happiness, pleasure, peace, calm, energetic, all of these items on my pillowcase. And I take a look at it.

 

My spouse laughed at me the opposite evening. She’s like, “Oh, that’s so cute.” And I’m like, “I wanna dream peacefully tonight. I wanna have a great evening’s sleep.” So then, growth, then I lay my head on my pillow and off I am going. Look, I’m not good. I’m not saying I do that every single day. But when we do it greater than we don’t, then we’re gonna be higher off in the long term.

 

Katie: A few occasions once I’ve been requested, “What’s the largest factor you are able to do in your well being?” I’ll inform individuals, cease listening to the information as a result of, you’re proper, that cycle of concern and simply overwhelm and it’s all over the place. And as social animals, this can be a nice segue into neighborhood, we’re designed to concentrate to that as a result of we’re meant to reside in neighborhood. It’s simply we weren’t meant to concentrate to that on a worldwide scale. We had been meant to concentrate to that in a neighborhood the place we might have an effect on a change and assist the individuals round us. And we’re wired for that in order that we can assist individuals. And we will’t assist the issues all around the world.

 

So I’m large on, shift your mindset to concentrate on the a part of the world that you simply really can have an effect on a change in. And such as you mentioned, concentrate on the optimistic, cease watching the unfavorable all day lengthy, steadiness that out. And I believe that ties into the thought of neighborhood, which I 100% agree with you. In researching “Blue Zones,” I used to be like, “I believe individuals are really lacking the purpose.” They wanna speak concerning the meals, or they drink one glass of wine a day, or they do all these items. Just like the commonality all of them have is robust neighborhood.

 

Yeah, they may be consuming an ideal Mediterranean weight loss program and ingesting a glass of crimson wine. However they walked there with their good friend, they usually’re having a gradual dinner with individuals they love. And possibly that’s the precise issue that’s so essential for longevity, is these relationships in that neighborhood. So to that time, what are some ideas you give individuals on constructing that neighborhood piece?

 

Clark: Nicely, I lived in a blue zone for a yr in Okinawa, Japan, and I reside an hour away from one other blue zone, Yorba Linda or no matter it’s proper up right here, simply north of us. And so they’re small communities, that’s the important thing. So I’ve a really giant neighborhood of males that grows each single day. And what I require these males do is get into what we refer as huddles. And so they’re smaller teams inside the bigger group as a result of, for those who develop a small group into a big group, then it simply turns into this large place the place individuals get misplaced once more.

 

I used to be on an plane provider once I was a Marine for a brief little stint. It’s a metropolis, it’s a huge metropolis, you assume since you’re on a ship, you’re gonna know all people. You would do a 20-year tour on an plane provider and never meet each particular person on that ship. And also you’re on a ship in the course of an ocean, you’d assume that that will be the case, it’s not. We gotta escape into smaller communities. So my huddles are 11 males. And as soon as these males begin to rise as much as a spot of management, I require that they break off and begin a brand new huddle for brand spanking new guys coming in who’re afraid, embarrassed, shy, timid, don’t know what to do, don’t know what to anticipate, as a result of that’s the nature of human beings.

 

We enter into communities, the bigger ones, fearful, just like the gymnasium is the largest one. The brink of the gymnasium is the toughest place for individuals to crossover, particularly ladies, particularly ladies who assume they’re chubby or assume they don’t seem like the 23-year-old hottie within the gymnasium. Look, man, I hear this each single day.

 

However what I’m right here to let you know is there are communities that can assist you, there are communities that can raise you up, there are communities that won’t speak unfavorable, is not going to settle for any of the stuff that we see within the large communities. As a result of even essentially the most…the Fb neighborhood with the very best intentions if left un, like, managed will flip right into a unfavorable surroundings, simply by nature of human beings being human beings, interval. Somebody will pop in with one thing that offends any individual, harm somebody’s emotions, isn’t meant to be talked about. We gotta management that type of factor, man. I’m a stickler on in my group.

 

Katie: That’s superior. Yeah, I believe small teams are the place it’s at, too. As people, I believe we exist in larger teams, however that core small group…such as you hear all these quotes from all of the self-help individuals about, you’re the sum of the individuals you spend essentially the most time with. And that’s additionally, after all, our households. However then the teams that we domesticate round that that may assist us transfer towards optimistic habits.

 

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I believe there are such a lot of different instructions, we might nonetheless go right here. However I might love to listen to simply any possibly like 80/20 high ideas that you simply give to people who find themselves possibly making an attempt to make these mindset shifts however overwhelmed and simply getting began. What are these sorts of massive levers they’ll pull that make an enormous distinction?

 

Clark: So one factor I inform my guys after they come into my group…and once more, I’m very laborious on these males after they are available in as a result of I perceive how laborious it’s to push a human out of those habits and these behaviors which were conditioned in us from dad and mom and coaches and academics and all of those various things.

 

A mentor of mine informed me years in the past, he mentioned, “Clark, you’re solely dedicated to what you confess.” So when males come into my group, I require they shoot a video and say, “Hello. My title is Clark Bartram. I’m from San Diego, California. I joined this group as a result of I generally tend to surrender on issues simple. And the way in which you possibly can assist me is by ensuring that I’m right here persistently. And for those who see me disappear, please come and discover me as a result of I actually wish to lose 20 kilos.”

 

Now you’re dedicated to the confession of what it’s that you simply mentioned. For those who don’t ever inform anyone what you wanna do this it’s simple to stop, for those who don’t put your self on the market in a method that’s like, “Oh, my gosh, now I gotta do that…” I keep in mind the primary time I ever competed in a bodybuilding contest. I didn’t wanna stand up in entrance of a bunch of individuals in little Speedo trunks. That wasn’t what I used to be used to doing. I used to be a shy child.

 

However somebody satisfied me, and I knew shortly that if I didn’t enter that contest and inform all people I used to be doing it primarily based upon my life previously, I used to be gonna stop. I used to be simply gonna stroll away. However as a result of I informed all people, now everybody’s saying, “Hey, when is your present? How for much longer you bought? Can I see the way you look?” Now, all of that optimistic vitality coming again to me form of helped me take that one subsequent step.

 

And generally that’s all we want is that one subsequent step. Oprah says this, “What’s your subsequent greatest transfer?” That’s what individuals must ask themselves proper now, what’s your subsequent greatest transfer? What do it’s worthwhile to do? Do it’s worthwhile to go analysis a weight loss program and get on one thing that’s not sustainable? Or do it’s worthwhile to simply write down every thing you’re consuming immediately and remember?

 

There are research at Harvard that show, for those who do this, then you definately’re going to extend your probabilities of success. I don’t know. I believe it’s 50 or 100 fold. I don’t know, it’s one thing. Harvard mentioned it, not me. However write it down.

 

What’s the subsequent greatest transfer, you understand? I believe writing it down and being conscious, easy issues. Don’t overcomplicate this. Simply get up immediately, don’t watch the information, eat a great meal, transfer just a little bit, smile, take a breath, be aware, get round like-minded individuals, and issues will change, man, assured.

 

Katie: And that makes me curious as a result of I really feel like we’ve dispelled fairly a number of of those already on this episode. But when there are another areas relating to this that individuals both don’t know or misunderstand. As a result of I believe, sadly, the health world, there’s a lot, like we talked about to start with, misinformation and competing data. Some other belongings you would contact on as issues which can be simply usually misunderstood?

 

Clark: Nicely, watch out of like listening and believing every thing. I’ve been lucky in my profession to be round some actually, actually, actually sensible individuals who perceive the science of getting individuals’s consideration in an effort to promote them one thing. And it’s not all the time what you assume it’s primarily based upon what you’re being triggered by to get you to answer one thing. And I do know that’s form of convoluted sounding.

 

However the level is, don’t all the time imagine what you see on the market within the web area. Not all people is on the market together with your greatest curiosity in thoughts. Persons are motivated by cash loads of occasions. I’m not saying all people within the health area is. However what I’m saying is there are some who’re. And you must actually take heed to your intestine.

 

Now, we’re speaking to primarily ladies right here, and ladies have instinct higher than males do. Ladies have a intestine that’s responding. Such as you’re both believing me proper now, otherwise you’re not. You’re both resonating with me proper now, otherwise you’re not. You’re both saying, “Wow, this man’s on to one thing. Honey, come pay attention, you may like this man, or this man is a jerk. This man is simply…” You recognize in your intestine what that’s. I’m simply saying observe that, and take heed to that, and concentrate on what’s on the market as a result of we aren’t missing people who find themselves on the market representing themselves in ways in which isn’t usually the reality.

 

I’ll say this one little analogy right here, and also you may keep in mind this and the people who find themselves just a little bit older will. There was a “Brady Bunch” episode, the place Greg Brady was being recruited by this expertise scout, this girl, and a person, to be the lead singer in a band. And the one requirement was that he match the jacket. The person who they needed to go this band didn’t want any expertise, didn’t want something. All he wanted to do was be a dimension 38 giant or no matter that jacket was as a result of it was all rhinestone down. So that they put it on Greg Brady, and it match him, and he thought he was this star however was simply the jacket.

 

There are lots of people on this business who match the jacket, you understand, they’re well-spoken, they appear good, now, all of this the opposite factor, however of their coronary heart, they don’t have a want to essentially, actually assist individuals. And I believe that’s what separates me from lots of people that you simply may see on the web. And I’m not saying it’s all people. However I’m saying I actually am on this for the precise causes. And I wanna assist individuals out. And also you’re the identical method, Katie, I imply, I really feel like I’m the male model of you.

 

Katie: And that’s true in so many areas of life is that it goes again to that core of wanting to assist individuals and I believe that individuals…to your level, instinct exhibits that. And that you simply’re in a position to like bond with individuals differently when it comes from that place of affection and willingness to assist and never judgment or simply desirous to generate income. As a result of actually, there are such a lot of methods to simply generate income on the market, however for me, a minimum of the success comes from really serving to create a optimistic change.

 

And that was my motivation in beginning “Wellness Mama” in any respect was studying that our children’ technology is gonna have a shorter life expectancy than we’re for the primary time in two centuries. And to me, that’s not adequate. We deserve to alter that statistic for the sake of our children. Additionally, the one factor we haven’t touched on but is dietary supplements, and I do know that’s the tip of your listing. However I might love to listen to any ideas you might have, possibly even belongings you take personally, or the way you assist individuals work out what they need to be taking.

 

Clark: So, I believe we must always all perceive that we’re in all probability malnourished in some nutrient that we want due to the comfort meals which can be surrounding us, and how briskly we’re dwelling our lives. So except we’re actually sitting down and being very aware about what we’re consuming, we in all probability are missing in a few of these nutritional vitamins and minerals. In order that’s an excellent place to begin. I believe all people must be on some type of vitamin and mineral.

 

And never one dimension matches all, there are firms on the market that may do customized blends for a person as a result of a male and a feminine want could be totally different. A man 60 in comparison with a man 16 could be totally different. So going and getting a generic complement in all probability isn’t the way in which to go. So there are some firms on the market, one which I take advantage of on a regular basis, I’ve customized blends proper right here, Persona Diet, they’re nice with that. You’re taking an evaluation they usually’ll provide you with what you want.

 

So in case your hair’s falling out, or it’s brittle, and your pores and skin, so there’s one thing for hair, pores and skin, and nails in there. For those who don’t sleep, there’s one thing that will help you sleep. For those who smoke, there’ll be one thing in there for the, free radicals and that type of factor. So, that’s very important.

 

Then from there, there are loads of designer dietary supplements that come into play that not all people wants, however as we age, there are joint points that we’ve considerations with. So I might begin on the very low degree, proper, the very base degree, and work your method up accordingly. Not all people wants every thing. And I see lots of people losing their cash on dietary supplements that aren’t vital.

 

And when individuals come to purchase mine, I promise you, Katie, I inform lots of people, “No, you don’t want it. Don’t purchase it. Please don’t purchase it.” I inform those that on a regular basis, individuals take a look at me like, “Are you loopy?” They’ll thank me, they’ll say, “Thanks, Clark, for being so trustworthy.” I’m not gonna promote you one thing for those who don’t want it as a result of, you understand, 40 bucks ain’t altering my life. However having an trustworthy change with one other human helps me fall asleep at evening. And that’s extra essential to me than the rest.

 

Katie: I really like that very a lot. And some questions, I rapid-fire I ask on the finish of interviews. The primary being if there’s a e book or numerous books which have profoundly influenced your life, and if that’s the case, what they’re and why?

 

Clark: Completely. So I’ll present you this one proper right here, “As a Man Thinketh” by James Allen. You’ll be able to see how simply tattered and marked up this factor is. I’ve learn it over 200 occasions, I’ve listened to it a number of occasions. I extremely suggest it for anyone. It’s very small. And you’ll learn one sentence and cease and see legislation, meditate on the phrases on this factor. It’s simply… proper right here, I’ll simply go to what I popped up “As a person achieves and all that he fails to attain is the direct results of his personal ideas.” Received that? Underline proper there, growth. It’s high quality stuff. Yep.

 

Katie: I like it. That’s a brand new suggestion, and it ties proper again into the mindset theme that we’ve had all through this entire episode. I’ll hyperlink to that e book within the present notes at wellnessmama.fm as effectively. And for hyperlinks within the present notes. Lots of people listening are ladies, however a lot of them are married to males. I do know you might have loads of sources particular to males but in addition relevant to women and men. The place can individuals discover you on-line and continue to learn?

 

Clark: My Instagram is @clarkbartram. My TikTok is therealclarkbartram as a result of I’m getting ripped off left and proper. And YouTube, which has my 3 Strikes, 3 Minutes, which anyone can use, is CBX Clark Bartram Programs. And I’ve an app that anybody might use, simply clarkbartram.app. It’s not on any of the Play shops, you possibly can go there and get that. However I used to be gonna say one thing about…oh, go forward. I forgot.

 

Katie: Perhaps this can set off your reminiscence. Simply any parting recommendation for individuals listening immediately, may very well be unrelated or associated to what we’ve already talked about.

 

Clark: I believe I’ll return to what we actually began with initially of this, Katie, is love your self immediately. I might love to offer you some homework as we finish this for everyone watching. I might encourage you to stand up and go look into the mirror, and simply inform your self how a lot you’re keen on your self.

 

Individuals usually misunderstand me once I inform individuals how a lot I really like me. I really like me some me. I’m the best particular person I do know I’m. I’m an superior human being. And that can set off some individuals, and the those that it triggers, for my part, are the individuals who don’t have that very same self-love they usually simply can not perceive that one other particular person has that and it’s not being immodest.

 

I’m no higher, you’re no worse. I’m simply actually actually understanding of the worth that I deliver the world and the way a lot I get pleasure from being right here proper now. Like this proper now could be the best factor that I may very well be doing. So simply get pleasure from the place you’re at. I wrote one thing down yesterday, I assumed it was fairly cool. Be the place your toes are, be the place your toes are. So immediately, as we go, simply be the place your toes are.

 

Katie: I really like that. I believe that ties in a lot of the mindset piece actually actually being the important thing. And I do know I’ve talked about it on this podcast earlier than and I can’t emphasize it sufficient as a result of I noticed in my very own life, when my mindset modified from that self-hate and self-critical to like and peace, and acceptance of myself, every thing else modified from that.

 

I discovered the quote in the course of that transition that mentioned, “I mentioned to my physique, ‘I wish to be your good friend.’ And it took a deep breath and responded, ‘I’ve been ready your entire life for this.’” And I believe it, like, actually simply illustrates that mindset actually crosses over into every thing else and it’s not talked about sufficient. So I really like that you simply defined it so effectively on this episode. This was a very enjoyable dialog. I’m so glad to have had you on. Thanks in your time.

 

Clark: Nicely, thanks very a lot.

 

Katie: And thanks as all the time to all of you for listening and sharing your most beneficial sources, your time, your vitality, and your consideration with us immediately. We’re each so grateful that you simply did, and I hope that you’ll be a part of me once more on the subsequent episode of “The Wellness Mama Podcast.”

 

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