Dr. Sonya Jensen on Woman Unleashed and How Stress Shapes Our Hormones

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Katie: Hiya, and welcome to the “Wellness Mama Podcast.” I’m Katie from WellnessMama.com and Wellnesse.com, that’s Wellnesse with an E on the tip. And this podcast is all about how stress shapes our hormones and what to do about it. I’m right here with Dr. Sonya Jensen, who’s the writer of “Lady Unleashed,” And she or he’s a naturopathic doctor with a mission to alter the best way girls perceive their our bodies and themselves. And she or he has the assumption that ladies are the middle of their households and communities, and that by supporting girls, we’re making a ripple impact to help your entire neighborhood. And I wholeheartedly agree along with her on that. She’s the co-founder of Divine Parts Well being Middle, The Longevity Lab, and The Well being Ignited Academy along with her husband, Dr. Nicholas Jensen.

 

And on this episode, we go deep on hormones and the way stress, trauma, and childhood experiences can form our hormones, the rationale that extra stress and cortisol can take our progesterone and what to do about it, the primary steps of reversing that course of and balancing hormones, her query for meals in life which is: Is that this nourishing me?, learn how to shift into parasympathetic and sign to the physique that it’s secure, her 80/20 well being, prime dietary supplements for girls, learn how to enhance your progesterone, and a lot extra. Actual fact-packed episode, and let’s be a part of Dr. Jensen. Dr. Sonya, welcome. Thanks for being right here.

 

Dr. Sonya: Thanks for having me. It’s so good to see you this time.

 

Katie: Good to see you too. You’re a requested repeat visitor, and I’m so excited as a result of you’ve got a brand new ebook that I simply obtained to take a look at, known as “Lady Unleashed,” which we’re gonna discuss at present, and I believe there’s a lot on this that’s actually related to girls, particularly… I imply, at all times, however particularly proper now, from the ladies I hear from, and from my very own private expertise, and I believe there’s a lot we will study from you at present. To start out broad, I’m positive individuals have perhaps, like, a passing understanding of the connection, however are you able to type of stroll us via how stress, and trauma, and childhood experiences, and even generational trauma can form our hormones and our physique and our blueprint?

 

Dr. Sonya: Yeah. For positive. That’s an incredible query. And the story actually does start even earlier than we had been born, within the womb, relying on our mom’s well being and simply how she’s perceiving her world, and the hormones that we’re receiving from her give us data on the type of atmosphere we’re going to be born into. So that truly modifications our phenotype and the hormones that we produce, in order that we will truly be accepted into this new tribe that we’ll be born into. And from day one, we begin to type of observe the environment, we undergo these experiences that then are imprinted into our mind. So, when, it could possibly be one thing so simple as, as we’re rising up, perhaps we didn’t obtain the eye that we wished from our mother or father, regardless that they had been doing their finest. So, it could possibly be a micro-experienced trauma, or it could possibly be a giant T trauma, the place we’ve skilled one thing that has pressured our mind to have a look at its atmosphere, to get all of the cues, just like the sights, the sounds, the smells, and prepare the mind to know if we ever really feel this manner once more, if we ever discover these triggers ever once more, the best way to reply is with our combat, flight, freeze, or please situation, which is our sympathetic nervous system, proper? So, it prompts that nervous system.

 

So, quick ahead, now, we could possibly be in a relationship, or we may simply be doing on a regular basis life, and rapidly there’s a odor. Possibly mother was cooking one thing when our dad and mom had been combating in some unspecified time in the future, and it triggers the mind to type of return to that reminiscence, and our emotional middle holds onto that reminiscence, the hippocampus, all of them type of speak to 1 one other, after which, once more, activate that sympathetic drive, which then turns off our parasympathetic and people thriving hormones, like progesterone, testosterone, and estrogen, that truly assist us thrive and navigate life the best way we’re required, and the best way we have to for fertility and simply general well being, and if we’re continually in that sympathetic drive, it’s actually arduous for the physique to do what must be executed to ensure that us to really feel wholesome.

 

Katie: Completely. I do know I’ve skilled this firsthand, and seen it in the previous couple of years in my very own life, with… Positively, I had massive T trauma, and what I’m realizing now’s some smaller ones as properly, that I type of discounted compared to the larger one, however I used to be, for a decade, doing all of the issues “proper,” and by the books, and all of the weight loss program and the dietary supplements and the train, and it wasn’t till I handled that different piece and let go of the trauma that all the things else shifted. And what was wonderful was I had labored… I felt like I’d labored so arduous making an attempt to combat my physique all these years, after which after I handled this piece, all these issues obtained a lot simpler and all of the well being stuff resolved itself. And since I’ve began speaking about that, I do know… I’ve heard from so many ladies who had been like, “How did you do it? What had been the steps?” And that’s why I used to be so excited to have you ever on. However speak extra about how the hormones in that state of affairs are mainly inflicting havoc within the physique in all points of life? As a result of I noticed it and I felt it, and I do know you perceive and might clarify it.

 

Dr. Sonya: Yeah. For positive. So, once we take into consideration stress generally, we launch hormones like cortisol and adrenaline to navigate that have and transfer us via that have. However to ensure that us to try this, now we have to close down our progesterone, as a result of progesterone will get transformed into cortisol. So, what’s progesterone? So, if it’s a menstruating girl, for instance, the primary half of your cycle, after you bleed, it’s predominantly geared in direction of utilizing estrogen, after which testosterone while you’re ovulating. So, throughout that first half of your cycle, you’ll have a bit extra power, you’re feeling a little bit bit extra outward sure, and wish to get issues executed, whereas the second half of your cycle, as quickly as you ovulate, progesterone is meant to shine, and progesterone could be very anti-anxiety, it’s anti-depressive, it’s the one which simply helps regulate our total system. So if that’s getting depleted as a consequence of this imprint in our psyche and in our nervous system, of at all times being very vigilant and at all times trying via the lens that we could also be in peril once we’re taking a look at the environment, we’re continually depleting that hormone.

 

So now, we would see irregulation in our cycle, we would see PMS signs, we would see weight achieve due to that. So, when that’s taking place, and we’re not addressing these traumas and these tales, we could possibly be doing all the appropriate issues, we could possibly be consuming all the appropriate issues, we could possibly be taking the dietary supplements, however that upstream issue, that was initially giving the sign, or creating this communication pathway between the mind and the remainder of your physique, that’s what must shift. That’s the factor that we have to unravel and unveil to ensure that us to create a brand new sample the place we will perceive that we’re not at all times in peril, that that is one thing that’s had a maintain of us, however we don’t at all times should be there. We may be within the parasympathetic, after which we will step into motion when we have to.

 

Katie: Yeah. That’s such an necessary piece. I spotted after I labored via it that I had in all probability been totally on sympathetic for actually years and years and years, and combating my physique, and realizing, after all, my physique will not be gonna heal and relaxation and digest and sleep properly while you’re in that state. And, that stated, I do know it’s additionally very multifaceted, and that there’s a whole lot of individuality that comes into play right here, however let’s begin broad with how do you begin to determine these elements after which convey these hormones again into steadiness?

 

Dr. Sonya: Yeah. For positive. So, within the ebook, I’ve these pause moments. So, usually, we are going to know in our thoughts once we are responding to life not the best way we truly wish to, nevertheless it’s coming from this response place. So, we could also be having a dialog with somebody and having this sense within our physique that simply doesn’t really feel like ourselves, and we’re reacting, and we’re irritable, and all of the actions that we’re taking, we could wanna go on this weight loss program and do very well, however there’s at all times one thing that drives us to seize onto that meals that we all know isn’t gonna serve our physique, so, pausing and asking ourself this query of, “Who does this story truly belong to? What are my driving forces? Like, what drives me to make these selections? What’s the inspiration on which I’ve constructed my life on, and this lens that I’m sporting?”

 

The extra questions we start to ask, the extra curious we grow to be of why issues are taking place the best way they’re. So, within the ebook, I additionally lay out this questionnaire the place you get to determine if you’re the duchess, the diva, or the damsel. So, these are these three archetypes that we could have put into our life. We could have captured these roles and put these masks on so as to survive our moments. So, for instance, the duchess, she could also be somebody that, , will get all the things executed completely. So, she is on schedule, on level, extra of a Sort A. She could also be a CEO. She’s anyone that runs her family, very organized, and simply will get the job executed. So, that’s such a present. And she or he additionally has to dwell in additional of that yang, sympathetic state to ensure that her to get that executed.

 

So well being by no means actually is a precedence. So, on this state, she could not sit down and eat her meals and chew correctly, as a result of she doesn’t have time, proper? Or she is simply on the go on a regular basis, so perhaps now she’s coping with IBS, and perhaps irregular cycles, and all these items, their alerts are exhibiting up in her physique, however she will’t cease and really take a look at that as a result of if she does, she’ll really feel unraveled and he or she doesn’t have time to really feel unraveled. It’s actually asking your self the query of, “The place am I in that triangle of disconnect,” that I discuss. “What are my driving forces? After which what can I do to help myself in making an alternate choice, in order that I can unpack what’s truly occurring right here?”

 

Katie: Yeah. I positively can resonate with points of that, and I believe, for me, a part of it was a response to that feeling of helplessness and the trauma was to then management each variable, and run all the things in a really regimented method. And I needed to learn to unpack that, and likewise to search out gratitude for it, as a result of what I spotted was that mechanism occurred to guard me. My unconscious was doing its job. It was for, such as you stated, for security and survival. That’s not a nasty factor, nevertheless it wasn’t a factor I wanted anymore. And so, it was studying to launch that. And I additionally bear in mind in that part worrying I used to be gonna lose my edge, as a result of that was the factor that drove me to get a lot executed. And I inform girls now, it’s, you don’t lose your edge, you simply get to decide on while you use the sword. And I believe that’s the actually necessary distinction.

 

Dr. Sonya: Sure, that identification, proper? So, we really feel like we’re gonna lose that identification, and there usually may be a whole lot of grief round that, and an unknown, and that unknown can really feel like a really scary place.

 

Katie: Completely. And it’s led to this fascinating discovery. I do know you discuss a few of these issues too so far as childhood stuff, and realizing, like, I had, by all accounts, distinctive dad and mom, and but there have been nonetheless ways in which I wanted to in all probability be beloved a little bit otherwise than what they had been doing, and having the ability to acknowledge that and work via it with out it being a fault of theirs, there didn’t have to be any guilt or blame there, however realizing, like, that was a factor I may, as an grownup, now work via and transfer to a more healthy place with. After which the generational facet as properly, are you able to speak a little bit bit about that? I do know you’ve talked about it some.

 

Dr. Sonya: Yeah. So, , talking to what occurs once we’re within the womb, type of begins from our mom’s story, after which, particularly as girls, we positively carry seven generations earlier than all of the tales which were handed down. As we all know, life-style will get handed down, tales get handed down, and actually, the facility is held within the storyteller, and sometimes, what occurs as these tales are being handed down on how we’re imagined to behave, how we’re imagined to look, the conditioning that we obtain from a really younger age has been occurring for generations and generations, and it actually isn’t till we grow to be aware of the truth that we’ve been residing out these circumstances, somewhat than from our truest essence, from who we actually know we’re on the core, we then get a possibility to unravel and heal even issues which were handed down from earlier than. Like, many traditions will communicate to when you heal, you heal seven generations earlier than and 7 generations ahead.

 

And this has been mapped out in genetics. So, as we begin to change, we begin to change the lineage, and we begin to change the story we’ve been carrying on our backs for therefore lengthy, so we don’t move it ahead. And infrequently, should you simply pause and begin to acknowledge and observe, for instance, even our dad and mom, if we begin to observe them, with out emotion, and begin to perceive that they had been doing the very best that they might with the knowledge that they had, similar with their dad and mom and the dad and mom earlier than, it takes away the maintain that a few of these tales could have on us, or these beliefs, and we will begin to actually perceive that, “I may give myself permission to launch this. It’s not my responsibility to carry onto this, but when something, it’s my responsibility to heal all the traumas and the tales” that, , as collectively, as girls, that we stock too, from many, many generations in the past. You already know, many generations in the past, girls weren’t secure to even specific themselves and their energy. And so, that in itself will get embedded into our genetic story and into our DNA, so then we navigate and tiptoe all through the world from that place. So, the second we acknowledge that what actions we’re truly residing out at present essentially aren’t ours to do, it creates extra freedom as properly.

 

Katie: And I wanna go deeper on the perhaps the stress aid and the interior work facet, however earlier than we do, one factor I’ve seen, it looks like particularly perhaps in trauma survivors or individuals who have a few of these patterns, particularly as girls, is sort of an undereating, under-nourishing, which the factor I seen in myself, is that I used to be that type of pushed, duchess kind, and I didn’t make time… And I used to be additionally making an attempt to deprive myself, as a result of I used to be making an attempt to, like, be a sure measurement and look a sure manner, and there have been a whole lot of tales intertwined with that. And after I actually began monitoring it, I spotted I used to be drastically undereating, and I had form of skilled my physique cues to not have pure starvation anymore, and this can be a factor I’ve heard now from a whole lot of girls which have simply really, like, not consuming sufficient nourishing meals. Is that one thing you see as properly?

 

Dr. Sonya: Oh, on a regular basis. And even via my very own private expertise, after I was 13, I went via anorexia. And I communicate to that within the ebook as properly, and simply not having management of my exterior world, meals was the best way that… I used meals as punishment, as a result of relating to our tradition, meals is how we join, proper? Like, feeding individuals is, like, primary precedence. Doesn’t matter who it’s, anyone walks into our, you feed them. And I spotted afterwards that I used to be utilizing it virtually as a weapon in direction of my household, as a result of I wasn’t answerable for my life, that I felt, at the moment. And while you begin to perceive that relationship with meals, and simply nourishment in itself, like, nourishment isn’t simply meals, it’s the conversations that now we have, it’s what we watch. It’s who we let into our circle of belief. It’s all of these issues.

 

So, the query that I at all times usually seed in girls is asking your self, “Is that this going to nourish me?” as quickly as we’re making a choice. So, if it’s a choice… Even for fasting, for instance. I’m an intermittent sooner now, and I train on fasting, and but, I’m at all times asking myself that query, “Is that this quick going to nourish me, or is that this going to deplete me?” So, as you begin to marvel about that, and grow to be interested in that, you begin to perceive why you’re making the choice that you’re, why you’re selecting the connection that you’re. What are you receiving from that? Are you receiving love and connection, or are you giving of your self and never in a position to say no and don’t have boundaries, since you really feel that’s the one manner that you just’re gonna really feel like you may belong, or really feel accepted? So, it simply opens up this door to marvel of your self, and extra self-discovery.

 

Katie: That’s an attractive query. And I’ve heard it stated that “boundaries are how I can love myself and another person on the similar time,” It’s an attractive reframe. And I’d love to speak extra now about how, like, perhaps the practices we will incorporate into our lives that assist steadiness hormones, extra on the attention, and perhaps meditation facet, getting extra into that parasympathetic.

 

Dr. Sonya: Yeah. That parasympathetic drive is so, so necessary relating to altering that communication in your hormones, as a result of as we all know, hormones are simply communicators, proper? In order that they’re gonna reply to their atmosphere. So, one stunning manner of fixing the alerts in that atmosphere may be via meditation. And meditation can look otherwise for everybody. It could possibly be a stroll within the woods, and that’s meditative. It could possibly be placing on an incredible music and dancing, and that’s meditative. It could possibly be sitting for just some minutes, and simply being in gratitude for all times this morning, or at present. So, it’s the second we step into that house of marvel and reverence of ourselves, and that getting actually tuned in to that coronary heart house, is once we can begin opening up that connection inside ourselves. And the second we make that call to attach, we will’t return, proper?

 

So, we will actually step into that house of being extra in our yin, which is a girl’s pure state, as a result of we do carry yang and yin inside us. Now we have a masculine female facet, and now we have that feminine female facet as properly. However recognizing that usually, we step into the yang, to get issues executed, to be of significance on the planet at present. So, to counteract that, to ensure that us to be in our softness, and likewise in our power on the similar time, issues like meditation, issues like yoga, issues that provide you with pleasure, are going to activate that oxytocin. They’re gonna activate that response in your physique, that will help you really feel settled and grounded in your self. So, no matter that appears like for you, perhaps it’s artwork. Proper, it could possibly be something, however any time your focus is in simply that current second and also you’re not future-projecting or residing prior to now, in despair, or anxiousness for the long run, everytime you’re in that current second, no matter exercise you’re doing, maintain on to that, and convey that up as part of your every day behavior, and non-negotiable.

 

And my non-negotiable is my morning routine. So, usually, that’s motion, as a result of I’m in my thoughts a lot. I’m very a lot that Vata structure, relating to ayurvedic drugs, so I’m usually in my thoughts, I’m a worrier, I’m at all times considering. So to ensure that me to really feel grounded, I’ve to step into my physique, so my meditation is motion. And so, my morning is nonnegotiable. And, , working with a whole lot of mothers, too, with younger children, and, I imply, you’ve got six. I solely have two, and even two is so much to deal with generally, however generally it’s behavior stacking, proper? So, perhaps they’re doing one thing and I’m cooking for them, and I’m doing, like, calf raises on the similar time, simply to convey consciousness to I’m nonetheless in my physique, I’m nonetheless proper right here, proper now.

 

Katie: Yeah. I’d love to listen to some other components of your morning routine as properly, or, perhaps, 80/20 high-value issues that folks can do to include. As a result of I do know that was an element I confronted in my very own restoration, was that I had indifferent from my physique, and I needed to, like, re-learn to be in my physique and take heed to my physique.

 

Dr. Sonya: Yeah. Once I realized about how my thoughts features, that actually helped help me too. So, my thoughts seems for the unfavorable. It seems for the holes and the gaps in a situation, as a result of it’s defending me due to my big-T trauma. So my thoughts is used to taking a look at its atmosphere and understanding what’s going to go unsuitable. So, for me, my morning observe, and my non-negotiable, is gratitude. So, waking up and simply being grateful for waking up. It’s so simple as that. After which as quickly as I put my ft on the bottom, being grateful that I can really feel my ft on the bottom. After which going to the lavatory, I’ve truly integrated now Mel Robbins’ excessive 5, so, giving your self a excessive 5. As a result of the second we take a look at ourselves within the mirror, now we have all of these items occurring in our thoughts, our to-do lists, all of the issues we’re not good at. “Oh, my goodness, I’ve baggage beneath my eyes,” like, all these items begin to present up. However the second you honor your self in a little bit little bit of reverence with that top 5, it modifications what your thoughts goes to do subsequent. It modifications the way you’re referring to your self.

 

After which I transfer into having my massive cup of water with a little bit little bit of lemon, after which transfer into my observe, whether or not that’s motion with yoga, or a HIIT train. After which I’m doing a sauna, chilly showers. That’s a giant a part of my observe as properly. Once more, something that’s gonna convey me into my physique is what I would like for myself. After which, because the day goes by, too, I’ve moments that I seize. So, for me, having a cup of tea is a second for me, and it reminds my thoughts and my psyche that I’m making myself a precedence, and that I’m necessary. So it could possibly be so simple as having a cup of tea, a cup of espresso by yourself, studying one thing, simply discovering these little moments all through the day can create a profound impact for the remainder of your life, actually. So it doesn’t should be this grand occasion, this large spa day, which, I imply, I like. Love my spa days, however actually, you are able to do little issues each single day that begin to create large modifications, and helps you grow to be an increasing number of of the observer of you.

 

Katie: Yeah. I like these. I’m a giant fan of gratitude observe as properly, and likewise, yeah, massive one is non-negotiable going exterior as quickly as doable after waking up, and getting daylight. So, usually my motion, or my studying, or no matter is exterior. There’s a lot cool analysis on that mild hitting our eyes within the morning, and triggering these sure receptors in our eyes that actually are good for hormones and serving to with sleep afterward, and I positively discover that correlation after I don’t do it. I see that lack that. Relating to hormones, I additionally hear from a whole lot of girls who wrestle with hormone-specific issues, whether or not or not it’s PMS, or scorching flashes, or endometriosis, or PCOS. Do you’ve got any ideas for particular, whether or not physique or thoughts, balancing these?

 

Dr. Sonya: Yeah. So, after I was talking to the duchess, and the opposite two archetypes are the diva and the damsel. So I’ll give an instance of the damsel, for instance. The damsel often seems at all the things as half empty, and he or she’s the one that may’t say no, proper? She’s volunteering, she’s doing all the things for her household, as a result of, once more, that’s how she acquired significance and that feeling of being necessary and belonging. So usually, this girl could have thyroid points, as a result of she’s not in a position to voice her opinion and communicate her reality, and he or she could even be rising issues inside her physique like cysts, as a result of the counter polarity of not having the ability to say no is resentment, as a result of she’s probably not doing it from a spot of true service, she’s doing it from a spot of depletion. So usually, after I discover a girl has, , cysts on her ovaries, and once more, in Chinese language drugs, ovaries and resentment are additionally correlated… Anger is correlated to the liver.

 

Once we begin to have a look at these eventualities, and perceive that what’s the emotional cue that’s creating this totally different communication inside your physique, and begin resolving that, then the physiology additionally follows. So, endometriosis is a big one for therefore many ladies in at present’s world, and sometimes, the query I’ll seed for that girl is when in your life did you not really feel secure in your atmosphere or in your house? As a result of at that second, the uterine lining, that endometrium, is making an attempt to go away. It’s making an attempt to go away its residence as a result of it doesn’t really feel secure there. So what can we do to convey extra security into your life, to convey extra steadiness into your life, so that you just really feel safe in your self, and never in search of it from the surface world?

 

So, once we begin to create these correlations, these aha moments occur for girls, they usually begin to type of unravel that story that perhaps they’ve been holding on to, after which we will take a look at the physiology, too, and say, “Okay. Effectively, that is how your physique’s been responding, so your progesterone’s decrease, your estrogen perhaps is dominant, your testosterone can be low. So how can we help that with issues that we all know we will do with the herbs, and the meals, and the nourishment from that facet, but additionally, how can we unveil the story that you just’ve been carrying for therefore lengthy, and the way can we unravel that to now serve you, so that you could perceive the items from that story, and it’s not controlling you, however as a substitute, you get to make use of that story, and have power to navigate your world?”

 

Katie: That’s stunning. And I believe it’s, such as you stated, it’s a small, intentional observe, and that consciousness goes such a great distance. I additionally am a giant believer in that we’re a lot the product of the questions we ask, whether or not it’s internally, via our personal unconscious, or externally to others, and I believe anytime we will quiet for a minute and take note of that, we see the outcomes time and again and over. I additionally hear from a whole lot of girls who, particularly after the final two years, are very overwhelmed, and fighting motivation and power, and so I’d love to speak about methods we will begin growing power to even have the motivation to do these inventive issues and to do these practices which might be useful.

 

Dr. Sonya: Yeah. That’s an incredible query, as a result of I do discover you need to work in your physique first earlier than you may go into your psyche and take a look at all these feelings. As a result of in case your physique is drained, there’s no manner you’re gonna be capable of deep dive into your story and what you could unravel. So, some issues that you are able to do each day is intermittent fasting is a good observe to get up these vitamins inside your physique which might be already out there to you to feed your mind. So, doing a little bit little bit of fasting, nourishing your physique with meals that’s gonna nourish your hormones. So, for instance, the primary half of your cycle, you wanna nourish your physique with extra wholesome fat. The final half of your cycle, you wanna nourish your physique with wholesome carbohydrates. So feeding your mind and your thoughts goes to make an enormous distinction on how you’re responding to life, as a result of now we’re creating extra power. We’re creating extra gas inside your system.

 

Understanding if there’s stuff in your atmosphere that is perhaps making a sluggish atmosphere in your physique and decreasing power, so, is there toxicity in your meals? Are you not consuming natural? Is there toxicity within the merchandise that you just’re utilizing? Is there toxicity in what you’re cooking with? So, going from room to room, I discover, simplifies all the things, so we will do away with what we will management, after which detoxifying our interior selves, in order that we will make room now for that therapeutic to occur, and dealing with somebody to type of do a deeper dive is absolutely necessary, and there are such a lot of issues that you are able to do simply at residence, like a castor oil pack routine, dry brushing routine, when you’ve got entry to a sauna, infrared sauna. So, at all times ensuring we’re making an attempt to empty that bodily bucket, in order that now we have time and house to now go into our emotional bucket and begin emptying the tales out from there.

 

Katie: Yeah. And I really feel prefer it’s type of a self-perpetuating cycle. Once we begin doing the bodily issues, now we have extra motivation, then power, that we’re in a position to do the interior work, and likewise then, that makes us extra motivated to do the bodily issues. Whereas backwards, too, if we get in that type of overwhelmed cycle after which we’re not doing the issues, then it’s more durable to do it, and it type of goes backwards. However I believe you’re proper. Like, the infant steps make the large distinction, and it’s what can we begin sustainably, that isn’t going so as to add to the overwhelm, and that’s gonna slowly improve our bandwidth to have the ability to add in additional, it looks like.

 

Dr. Sonya: As a result of it’s very easy to enter this mindset of, like, “I’m failing.” Proper? Once we attempt to go on this different monitor, the place we’re doing all the appropriate issues and actually placing a lot on our plate, as a result of we actually wanna deal with what’s taking place, but when we simply do these small steps and have these small victories. So I encourage girls to make success lists. Like, even writing down issues you’re gonna get executed that day. I’m gonna bathe. So I’m writing that down on my listing. I’m gonna brush my enamel. I’m writing that down on my listing. It’s simply that act of checking that off, and that reassurance within the thoughts and the mind that sure, I can get issues executed. And that additionally doesn’t outline me, that, all of what’s taking place is a journey. So the extra we concentrate on what we will do and we will have management over, we’re in a position to let go of what we will’t management.

 

Katie: Yeah. That’s an incredible reframe. And I, for a very long time, managed all the things on my telephone, simply because know-how is such part of our life now. And I’ve just lately switched again to a planner, not for calendar stuff, however for my every day process listing, and for gratitude, simply because there’s, such as you stated, one thing that’s actually useful about that tangible crossing one thing off a listing, and likewise, to me, writing out what I’m grateful for, it simply helps cement it, and helps me, like, actually internalize it much more. And it looks like for girls particularly, like, journaling, and even simply drawing, one thing like that, is a really useful observe to, like, you stated get the interior, and begin processing it, and assist it get out.

 

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I additionally hear from a whole lot of girls who appear to have pores and skin points, and it looks like this will positively be hormone-related as properly. Do you’ve got any particular ideas for skin-related points?

 

Dr. Sonya: Yeah. So, relating to the pores and skin, it truly is your liver that’s talking, proper? So, usually, girls could have cystic pimples earlier than their interval, and that’s usually as a consequence of estrogen dominance, and since the liver perhaps is congested. So, like I used to be talking to the castor oil packs. You are able to do castor oil packs. You wanna detoxify, and also you wanna be certain that your intestine is transferring. So, wholesome bowel actions on daily basis. In order that could possibly be merely including one thing like Triphala to your nighttime routine. That’s a powder that has three ayurvedic herbs in there, that you would be able to put in heat water after your final meal. So, that may actually serve you. Having some ghee and, like, golden milk earlier than mattress, that’s additionally gonna serve your intestine, and the butyrate in your intestine. Ensuring you’re having issues like floor flaxseed, chia, hemp, like, fibers. Prebiotics are additionally gonna help that as properly, as a result of, once more, you’re simply amplifying that wholesome micro organism in your intestine, in order that the estrobolome, which is a bunch of micro organism in your intestine, have the capability to work with the liver to detoxify these extra estrogens from the atmosphere and out of your physique.

 

So the extra you do this, the much less your bucket fills up on daily basis, and has to make use of your pores and skin to secrete these toxins out of the physique. As a result of should you see your self as a bucket, as, , the physique, and we fill it up on daily basis with totally different toxicities, now we have these emunctories and pathways of elimination that assist help decreasing that load. So, that’s your intestine, your lymphatics, your kidneys, your mucous membranes. But when any of these are clogged up, your pores and skin being the biggest organ, it’s simply straightforward to push issues out of the pores and skin. So so as to help the pores and skin, you need to help your lymph, your intestine, your kidney, so simply ensuring issues are flowing and transferring each single day.

 

Katie: And for people who find themselves simply beginning… I do know we’ve touched on in all probability a number of of them, however what can be a few of perhaps, like, the 80/20, , 20% of issues that give the most important bang to your buck if you’re overwhelmed and also you solely can do child steps, the place can be a few of the finest beginning factors?

 

Dr. Sonya: Yeah. So, waking up and having that lemon water motion is gonna improve your lymphatic circulate. Dry brushing, if you may get a dry brush and simply use that, and giving your self a therapeutic massage with some sesame oil, that’s gonna be supportive. Your first meal, if it’s a smoothie, you may put in these fibers, and that in itself will begin simply motion to occur. And in your nighttime routine, you may put in simply that teaspoon of Triphala, and perhaps a castor oil pack, so a little bit little bit of castor oil over your stomach, and a scorching water bottle and a towel. It could possibly be so simple as that. And that could possibly be your every day routine, simply to type of get issues transferring.

 

Katie: After which, I’d love to the touch on sleep as properly, as a result of it looks like each time there are hormone points, usually, sleep points go proper alongside with it. After which, we all know from the analysis, sleep is without doubt one of the most core, foundational issues for all points of well being, and in over 500 episodes of this podcast I’ve by no means had anybody say high quality sleep will not be necessary. It appears to be, like, one of many issues each professional can agree on, and it appears, clearly, a fall-down level for lots of girls, and mothers particularly, for heaps and many causes. Any ideas for bettering sleep?

 

Dr. Sonya: Yeah. Sleep is so necessary relating to our hormones and our circadian rhythm. And simply going again to that progesterone piece, progesterone, GABA, and melatonin are finest pals. So, when melatonin is low due to our excessive cortisol, it’s going to have an effect on progesterone. When progesterone is low, it may well’t activate the receptors within the mind to obtain GABA. So then GABA is gonna be low, which creates extra of that wired drained feeling within the night, and doesn’t actually permit the physique to relax earlier than mattress so we will have a restful sleep. So, sleep is so necessary. So, having a sleep routine is absolutely necessary, and actually, going to mattress earlier than 11:00 p.m. So, that’s additionally key, since you don’t wanna convey up your cortisol after 11:00 p.m., as a result of your physique thinks you’re awake. In order that’s gonna mess up your circadian rhythm.

 

So, earlier than 11:00 p.m., you wanna be going to mattress, and also you need a routine that truly, , removes the blue mild. So perhaps having pink mild blockers on should you’re watching one thing, however actually, placing away know-how as shortly as you may after dinner, studying one thing, having that gratitude observe, one thing, once more, to type of convey your out of your thoughts and into your physique, so you may launch the day, and transfer into that dream state and extra of a peaceful and relaxed method.

 

And, sure, so it’s gonna be issues that folks can use, like melatonin and CBD, and lots of herbs, that may be actually useful. However what you actually wanna perceive is, first, what are the issues that I’m doing, ranging from the purpose after I get up to the night, as a result of as quickly as we get up, we’re preparing for sleep. So, all of the habits, all of the issues that we’re consuming, ensuring that we’re maintaining a healthy diet fats in our final meal, in order that our glucose isn’t driving up, and likewise growing that cortisol, not permitting melatonin to do its job. So these are some issues that you would be able to simply type of observe about your self, and have virtually, like, a sleep journal, to know, “Okay. What are some issues I can incorporate into my life that can improve that high quality sleep?” And, , many individuals have Oura Ring. My husband’s obsessed along with his Oura Ring, and you may simply take a look at your knowledge and perceive, “Okay. Once I eat this dinner, that is affecting my coronary heart charge variability. It’s affecting my parasympathetic nervous system.” And all that knowledge is gonna present you what you may or can’t do within the night that’s gonna help deep sleep for you.

 

Katie: Yeah. I’m additionally a giant fan of my Oura Ring, and likewise, the Chilipad has been a game-changer for me for sleep. However the Oura Ring, particularly, you’re proper. You begin to see the patterns, and it’s studying issues like regardless of how a lot I might imagine I prefer to drink wine at evening, my deep sleep doesn’t fall after I drink wine at evening. And I’ve realized some useful issues, and if I eat sufficient protein in the course of the day, my deep sleep loves that, and it’s helped me study myself in that manner. You’ve additionally talked about progesterone a number of occasions, and the way necessary it’s. Is that one thing you’ll advocate supplementing with, or if not, what are the methods to assist form of naturally elevate that with out utilizing some type of exterior complement?

 

Dr. Sonya: Yeah. So, I usually use bioidentical hormones with girls if it’s wanted. So getting examined is absolutely necessary, doing all of your DUTCH take a look at to acknowledge the place your progesterone is at, as a result of usually, low progesterone may also seem like regular progesterone however low estrogen. So, simply these nuances, to know them, getting examined is necessary should you’re gonna go down the route of utilizing progesterone. Different herbs that may actually help your progesterone are herbs which might be gonna act extra like adaptogens, so will assist help that decreasing of your cortisol. So, ashwagandha is an attractive one which you should use. Chaste tree is an attractive herb that’s gonna improve LH but additionally improve progesterone in your physique. So, these are just a few issues that you would be able to make the most of. However relating to meals, wholesome carbohydrates like yams, and beans, and lentils, and these sorts of issues are gonna help your progesterone as properly, together with these every day practices that we spoke about, the meditation, the gratitude, and simply actually engaged on that vagal tone and that parasympathetic state is gonna feed into your progesterone, as a result of it’s gonna reinforce to your physique and your thoughts that you just’re not in peril. So, the extra we work on that, the extra help your progesterone will really feel.

 

Katie: Yeah. And it’s one other a kind of optimistic suggestions loops, the place as you get higher sleep and as you nourish your physique, then these items enhance they usually proceed to wish to enhance. Additionally, understanding, after all, there’s a lot bio-individuality with this query, I’m curious if there are any dietary supplements that you just discover, on common, very useful for girls, clearly with the caveat work with somebody who is aware of what they’re doing. However any that you just see type of recurring which might be useful for girls, particularly?

 

Dr. Sonya: My favorites are chaste tree, magnesium. DIM and I3C are actually nice as a result of they’re gonna assist help that liver detox, which is able to then help your progesterone to rise, after which ashwagandha is my favourite adaptogen, together with rhodiola, is one other favourite of mine, that may actually be supportive, only for that nervous system. After which, once more, understanding your neurotransmitters, so GABA may be actually supportive for girls as properly in that final half of her cycle. GABA and a little bit little bit of melatonin, to simply help that progesterone drive.

 

Katie: And naturally, as girls, now we have way more fluctuating hormones than males, which I believe is definitely…generally is a large benefit, as a result of we get these pure modifications all through the month. Are there any issues to pay attention to associated to our cycle, so far as perhaps other ways to work out or nourish our our bodies otherwise in several components of the month?

 

Dr. Sonya: Sure. I like this query. So, I usually communicate to the seasons of a girl’s life, the seasons of the environment, after which the seasons of her cycle. So, , there’s 4 totally different phases within the cycle. There’s while you’re bleeding. So, what do you wanna do while you’re bleed? As a result of that’s such a time of detoxing, it truly is a time of reflection. So, you may be journaling then, you may be detoxifying feelings, and actually type of uncovering a few of the issues that perhaps you had been holding on to for the previous month. So, right here, you in all probability gained’t be that hungry, so having extra, like, soups and stews, and simply actually nourishing meals, the extra coloured meals, like purple and, like, deep and wealthy colours, since you wanna feed that iron in your physique, as properly, and simply type of replenish that.

 

After which as you step out of that part and also you go into your follicular part, that is the place estrogen is gonna begin to rise. So, how can we feed our estrogen? So, wholesome fat like avocado are gonna help that. Right here can be the place you might in all probability do extra HIIT train. There’s extra motion. You can be a little bit bit extra aggressive together with your routine, as a result of you’ve got the capability and the power to try this. Quickly as we step into ovulation, testosterone begins to rise. So, fasting is a little bit bit simpler earlier than that. Not a lot throughout ovulation, but additionally recognizing that that is that one time in our cycle the place testosterone will go up. So, usually, libido will likely be a little bit bit increased.

 

Then as we step into our luteal part, and progesterone wants nourishment, this can be a time the place your physique needs you to be extra inside, so slowing down. Possibly now you focus extra on yoga, or going for a stroll exterior, consuming these wholesome carbohydrates, journaling a little bit bit extra, actually reflecting on life itself, and, like, what’s working for you, what’s not. Saying no extra to exterior issues, and dealing on it from that perspective, and likewise understanding that your libido right here will go down. You already know, usually, there’s this false impression that I ought to really feel the identical all through your entire month, however as a result of our hormones ebb and circulate like that, it’s necessary to know that your libido could also be excessive at one level each cycle, however then it begins to go down, particularly should you’re not on the capsule, proper, you’re gonna actually acknowledge these ups and downs, and sometimes, this can be a problem in a relationship. However should you perceive your cycle, you may then talk this together with your companion, so additionally they perceive that this can be a time the place, , I’m gonna be a little bit bit extra inside and focus extra on me, in order that I can step into the subsequent part of bleeding with extra management, and simply with extra steadiness.

 

Katie: Yeah. And I believe libido is a crucial level, particularly for girls as properly. I do know I hear from individuals about this very often, and particularly libido seeming to go down with age considerably, however I ponder if this additionally is absolutely, like, tied in with a few of these hormone modifications, and in that case, what can girls do to help libido, clearly, realizing it’s nonetheless gonna ebb and circulate all through the month. However are there issues that generally may help with that?

 

Dr. Sonya: Yeah. For positive. So, even understanding that’s…starting age 25, our testosterone begins to drop. And with each baby, we lose about 15% of our testosterone shops. And what are the issues which might be gonna have an effect on testosterone? Insulin goes to have an effect on it. So if there’s any form of insulin resistance in your physique, so, once more, should you’re consuming processed meals, or increased carbohydrates, snacking so much, these items are gonna improve your insulin. So the best way to convey your insulin down is by incorporating that fasting routine that works for you, and likewise growing your wholesome fat, decreasing these grains, which is able to then help your testosterone. Figuring out very first thing within the morning, earlier than 8:00 a.m., on an empty abdomen, additionally will increase your testosterone and progress hormone. In order that’s one thing you may incorporate additionally, to extend it naturally. After which, doing issues like maca is gonna help it as properly. So you may actually assist to simply help that testosterone drive inside you thru a few of these habits, in order that while you go into your cycle, you begin to actually perceive that that is truly true lack of testosterone, or is it simply part of my cycle at the moment?

 

As a result of once we undergo perimenopause and menopause, , it’s type of nature’s contraception. Testosterone does naturally go down, however you may type of construct your self up with a few of these habits and resistance coaching and these items, to simply help your system, in order that, , it helps help the connection, but additionally inviting issues in your life that provide you with pleasure. I discover the extra oxytocin that will get constructed up within the girl’s physique, the simpler it’s for her to step into having extra libido, as a result of now she will type of make the aware effort. She will type of convey that motivation up, as a result of she’s been filling her cup up. If you happen to’re transferring into that part already depleted, that’s what creates extra of that loss in libido.

 

Katie: That is smart. And as we get near the tip of our time, a number of different questions I like to ask are if there’s a ebook or quite a few books which have had a profound impression in your life, and in that case, what they’re and why.

 

Dr. Sofia: Yeah. Yeah. So, Dr. Edith Eger, she wrote the ebook “The Selection,” and that one’s had a extremely profound impact on me as I went via my journey, and simply realizing how a lot of a alternative we actually have in our thoughts, and the actual jail, and the actual problem is absolutely in right here, not a lot within the exterior world. So, we alter this, we alter our story, and we actually start to alter our lives. In order that one, I’ve to say, arms down, has been large for me, and it’s one which I discuss with on a regular basis.

 

Katie: I’ll make it possible for’s linked within the present be aware as properly, for you guys listening, wellnessmama.fm. And the place can individuals discover you, discover your ebook, and continue to learn extra?

 

Dr. Sonya: Yeah. Thanks. So, on Instagram, my deal with’s @drsonyajensen, and likewise my web site, drsonyajensen.com. And you may get the ebook wherever on the planet on Amazon, within the U.S., Barnes & Nobles, and in Canada on Indigo or Amazon.

 

Katie: And any parting recommendation for our listeners at present? It could possibly be associated to what we’ve talked about, or one thing fully unrelated.

 

Dr. Sonya: Yeah. Simply give your self a possibility to fall again in love with your self, as a result of there was a second in time in your life, while you faucet into that little lady, that little baby, the place she thought she was the bomb, and one thing occurred alongside the best way that took that drive away, that took that have away, and you may shift that, as a result of as quickly as you do, you don’t even understand how a lot energy you’ve got inbuilt you, that you just’re gonna be capable of specific into the world.

 

Katie: That’s stunning. I believe it’s an ideal place to wrap up for at present. Thanks a lot to your time and being right here, and for all the work that you just do.

 

Dr. Sonya: Thanks. Thanks for all the things that you just do.

 

Katie: And thanks as at all times to all of you for listening and sharing your Most worthy assets, your time, your power, and your consideration with us at present. We’re each so grateful that you just did, and I hope that you’ll be a part of me once more on the subsequent episode of the “Wellness Mama Podcast.”

 

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